WARNING: This post may be dangerously long.
Let's kick off this post with an awesome new video/song on Ben's new album with Hornby.
yeah. he's pretty frickin' awesome.
So I went home on Thursday to spend the night at the house with Ian when the parents were out of the house and to be his personal cheuffer. We planned some bonding....Ben bonding.
And we had a fabulous time.
Basically our mission was to create a "Best of Ben" CD. We chose our songs based on the following goals.
1.Show every aspect of Ben possible to create a true "Ben experience"
2. To be able to hand a novice Ben listener this CD to get them hooked on his genius-ness
3. Satisfy all the different types of Ben listeners (that's why it took 3 people and 3 hours to put this together)
4. Include a mix of Five stuff and solo Ben stuff
So what was fair game? All Five stuff, all E.P. stuff, all the albums (including Hornby), but no Shatner or a cappella jawn. We came together with our lists already made. Voted, discussed, switched some stuff around, geeked out, and then repeated the process.
MY LIST:
Effington/Jackson cannery/Army/Narcolepsy/Jesusland/Rockin the suburbs/Saskia Hamilton/Kate/Errant Dog/One angry dwarf and 2000 solemn faces/The bitch went nuts/The Luckiest/Trusted/Protection
HENRY'S LIST:
There’s always someone cooler than you/Landed/Give Judy my notice/Annie waits/Trusted/Dr. yang/Battle of who could care less/Doc Pomus/From above/Ascent of Stan/Free coffee/Magic/Cologne/Late IAN'S LIST:
Effington/Bastard/Jesusland/Rockin the Suburbs/Mess/Narcolepsy/Doc Pomus/The Luckiest/Magic/Not the same/Evaporated/Late/Army/Philosophy
BEN FOLDS 15
- Saskia Hamilton
- Effington
- Trusted
- Cologne
- From Above
- Narcolepsy
- Rockin the Suburbs
- Brick
- Doc Pomus
- Not the Same
- Jesusland
- Zak and Sara
- Late
- Army
- The Luckiest
It's funny that I haven't even begun the bulk of my post yet. Below are some snippets from the conversations that happened while trying to formulate this awesome compilation. Well, mostly remarks that Ian made.
I was shocked that no one else had Saskia on their list. I quote:
Emma: HOW DO YOU NOT ALL HAVE SASKIA ON YOUR LISTS!?
Ian: It feels very anthemy.
This is definitely happening -->Ian: You what what would be fun? If we did this regularly. Pick, say, four artists that all share a similar sound and work on a mix tape.
Ian: the piano playing on narcolepsy is what blows me away. I can’t play it like he can play it. He has the perfect hand balance throughout the whole song. It’s a really strong song. The lyrics are amazing once you can make them out.
Ian: You don't understand, Marc, this is a labor of love.
Marc: Oh, I get it, it would take me this long to do Bruce songs.
Ian: We love Ben as much as he loves Bruce Springsteen.
Enough of Ian's smithy remarks. Below is how the bulk of the two hours really went. If you are fellow Ben fan, you may find this interesting! If not, listen to our playlist and then you will find it interesting.
10 songs overlapped and then we had 4 more to choose. A lot more single stuff, so we needed more Five. But we felt that his true artistry came through in his solo stuff. Even though his Five stuff was awesome, we primarily rocked out to it rather than appreciating how well written it was. We agreed that exceptions to this are songs like brick and evaporated.
Speaking of Evaporated, Ian really defended Evaporated right up until we were about to figure out the order of the final disc. Then he had a turn around. We added in “From Above” instead. The sounds of from above weren’t like evaporated at all, but the lyrics were comparable.
One of Henry's picks was There’s always someone cooler than you, a very Foldsy song. This angered Ian and I because we still don't have Sunny 16, the E.P. We felt like Fail Folds Fans. We hung our heads as we listened to how awesome the song was.
We all agreed that You Don’t Know Me was a good idea to not put on the compilation because it was far more Regina-influenced than Ben influenced. You Don’t Know Me also became extremely popular amongst non-Ben listeners, (and excuse me if this is too uppity of me) which was an indication that it wasn’t the essence of Ben. It dabbled into pop a bit. It didn’t belong on our list, even though we too enjoy its beat and general cool feel.
This kind of talk led us to an in-depth analysis of the distinguishing traits of each album.We decided that Rockin the Suburbs album (a really tight album, by the way) was truly a transitional album from his Five stuff to where he ended up next: Songs for Silverman.
Songs for Silverman was the album that every serious artist has where they lock themselves in a closet with their chosen instrument (guitar, piano) and comes up with bottom of their heart stuff. Ian called it a “greater experience of Ben.”
With Way to Normal he started trying new things which is why we got such a unique experience of every song. Compare Hiroshima Cologne and You don’t know me. Crazy differences.
And then we all agreed that while this new Hornby album is essentially just another awesome Ben album, the writing was definitely the highlight.
Henry pointed out that Ben is a very different writer than Hornby. Ben’s writing tends to have stories within the verses to make up a message. For example, the Luckiest. A different expression or story of love is in each verse and they aren’t necessarily continuations of each other. However if Hornby had written it, the luckiest would have been a story of two people from birth to death and probably equally as powerful.
Okay back to songs: We all agreed that Not the Same was classy. Instant winner. I felt ashamed that it wasn't on my own list.
Henry chose Cologne over the Luckiest. He felt very strongly about it being on the final list. It “stirred emotions in me,” he said.
I admit I was on the fence about Rockin the Suburbs. Too much hype about the song maybe. My favorite remark that I’ve ever read about Rockin the Suburbs was that it showed that Ben completely embraced his whiteness. He is incredibly white. But we thought that if we were selling this to the public people would be like “where the heck is Rockin' the Suburbs?”
And then we all realized we didn’t have Brick. And then we freaked out. We all assumed everyone else would have it. We took Magic off the list and added Brick in instead. We all then realized that we just liked magic because University of Chicago a cappella choir knocked it out of the park and we weren’t going to count a capella stuff. Henry said that he just liked the timpani “bum bum” at the beginning.
The thing about Brick is that it makes you think. It took me 3.5 years to figure just the concept out and then Ian said he is still figuring things out. It makes you keep listening to it.
Once we realized that we didn’t have Zak and Sara (just like we realized we didn’t have brick), we decided to add a track, allowing the title to become Ben Folds 15. And then got mad because this was too hard and that really we needed two discs.
Just look at him. He's adorable.
Well. There is a lot I left out, but you can tell we are Ben enthusiasts. And that we wish we were on All Songs Considered. Wouldn't that be the ultimate dream job!?
That's all. Long post ending now.
ps. I'm seeing Ben Folds in less than a month! The count down begins...